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Christine
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« on: October 14, 2007, 11:09:54 AM »

Do YOU fail to see that Peter is a minister of the circumcision and that Paul is YOUR apostle, the apostle to the gentiles given a NEW REVELATION?



THAT is the difference. Peter preached a DIFFERENT gospel message that will NO LONGER SAVE ANYBODY.



Did you hear that? Peters message will no longer save ANYONE! YIKES...from many I will hear an audible GASP...but its TRUE! NO One is saved by the preaching of the law of Moses, which is what PETER preached!




Anyone who is believing that repent and be baptized for the remission of sins in this dispensation is lost and still dead in their sins.





Did you hear that? Forgiveness is not based on repenting and being water baptized today! Anyone believing Peters message today, is really NOT saved.



Christ was Israel's Messiah.... Christ is our Head.

The relationship of a king and his subjects is different than a head and the body.




Did you hear that? We don't have a MESSIAH, or a KING. We have a Savior and a HEAD.




Peter taught
that satan was a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour (and he will most definitely be that during the great tribulation which was the event that peter was preparing the LITTLE FLOCK to go thru)



Paul teaches that satan is an transformed into an angel of light.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.



Did ya hear that? Peters gospel has satan right out there , mean as a snake (or in this case a LION), seeking to devour from "WITHOUT" and IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Pauls gospel has Satan using clearly a much different tactic. Seeking to DESTROY from "within" the camp. Trying to pass himself off as "good, righteous, light".


You need to ask yourself a question.

If Paul didn't get a special revelation or new information for a new group of people and he preached exactly the same thing peter preached...then "why Paul?"
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Christine
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 11:17:58 PM »

We need to take another look at this one! Good stuff.
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Christine
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 09:10:02 AM »



YES, the gospel IS about Christ, but it is in BELIEVING certain pertinent things ABOUT Him that we are saved today.

 We are to believe in His death, burial and resurrection being sufficient for God to reconcile us to Himself.  God has always required taking Him at His WORD for salvation.

As to his comment that Peter preached the same gospel as Paul...he is sadly mistaken. Peter did NOT preach Christ and the Cross for  salvation but "repent and be water baptized". He did so because he was a minister of the CIRCUMCISION, and Paul was a minister of the UNcircumcision.

Scripture tells us that when Peter and the apostles were given the information by Christ of His death on the Cross, that they understood NONE Of these things, it was KEPT HIDDEN From them. Is scripture lying?

Peter preached the KINGDOM gospel.  Paul preached the gospel of the GRACE of God.  Both are wonderful pieces of good news, but ONLY one saves today.

Same Jesus, but different messages to different groups of people.

ONLY one is the gospel of OUR salvation today, and scripture DOES tell us that it is in believing the good news about what Christ DID on that Cross that saves us.


1 Cor. 15:1-4
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Roofdad
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2009, 09:53:47 PM »

Aaaaamen, Christine!
I am having discussions with a lady that claims to be a dispensationalist that understands rightly dividing, but she believes that James and John also preached grace........
Also, she informed me that she feels that I might be involved in "hyperdispensationalism". When I asked her why, she cited my "lifting up" of Paul, above the other apostles. I quickly informed her that I lift NOBODY except for Christ, and that Paul was merely a tool, raised up and used by the risen Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver a new gospel to the Gentiles, as well as to the other apostles, in Acts 15.
I told her that Paul is OUR apostle, and the 12 that walked with Christ were apostles to Israel. She hasn't gotten back with me in a few days.............. hmmmmmmm.
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Christine
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 08:53:09 AM »

Aaaaamen, Christine!
I am having discussions with a lady that claims to be a dispensationalist that understands rightly dividing, but she believes that James and John also preached grace........
Also, she informed me that she feels that I might be involved in "hyperdispensationalism". When I asked her why, she cited my "lifting up" of Paul, above the other apostles. I quickly informed her that I lift NOBODY except for Christ, and that Paul was merely a tool, raised up and used by the risen Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver a new gospel to the Gentiles, as well as to the other apostles, in Acts 15.
I told her that Paul is OUR apostle, and the 12 that walked with Christ were apostles to Israel. She hasn't gotten back with me in a few days.............. hmmmmmmm.

Giggling hysterically here, Darryl. You gave her something to THINK ABOUT and you can bet your bottom dollar she is THINKIN' her little head off....LOL

Be praying for her, as I am, that God will use the information you gave to her to drive her to the Bible for answers.

As to the label she wished to slap on ya....you are a Dispensationalist and if being EXCITED about Gods Word finally making some sense makes you HYPER, then woo hoooooooooooo, let her call ya any name she wants to!

Paul was RAISED UP by God Himself to be the first to preach the Cross for salvation. Israel was to believe in the NAME of Christ as their prophesied MESSIAH...we are to believe in the DEATH, BURIAL and RESURRECTION of Christ as the HEAD of the BODY, of which we are individual members.

Be sure and tell her that the BODY saints were never mentioned by John and the others, as the NEW CREATION which IS none other than the creation of the BODY as a new entity entirely, was KEPT SECRET until Paul, who was its first member.

YOU will know what to tell her as she comes back for another round, I'm sure.....sounds like you've got a LIVE ONE, Darryl. We will be praying for your further discussions with her.

By the way, I mailed the envelope of study material to your friend per your request on Monday.


Huuuuuuuuuugs fella and don't be such a stranger in here....LOL
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NewDawn
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 10:45:07 AM »

Aaaaamen, Christine!
I am having discussions with a lady that claims to be a dispensationalist that understands rightly dividing, but she believes that James and John also preached grace........
Also, she informed me that she feels that I might be involved in "hyperdispensationalism". When I asked her why, she cited my "lifting up" of Paul, above the other apostles. I quickly informed her that I lift NOBODY except for Christ, and that Paul was merely a tool, raised up and used by the risen Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver a new gospel to the Gentiles, as well as to the other apostles, in Acts 15.
I told her that Paul is OUR apostle, and the 12 that walked with Christ were apostles to Israel. She hasn't gotten back with me in a few days.............. hmmmmmmm.

Yeah, good answer Brother! 
I got a kick out of that too.  Boy you sure have grown right before our eyes!!! I'm trailing right behind you Bro.

Christine, thank you for your total encouragment and support!!!

Hugs!
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